>> first thing, speaker dennis hastert said at this time, questioned whether we should build new orleans. i think there was significant pushback from people in that region, specific about the city of new orleans, and eric's point that did come up. >> it was a racial point. about new orleans being below sea level. >> one second. one second, okay? my point is, from new orleans, they were offended by that. here is the deal. and he had talked to the congressional black caucus, how he sees him, what he said. i heard him naacp, 2009, talked about what he did in terms of schools, those lines, and got criticized for saying basically lecturing african-americans that he wouldn't do it for the white audience. didn't hear anybody white or conservative complain about that, you pull yourself up by your boot straps. let's be honest. politicians have always talked different ways, different groups, whether are you democrat or republican, conservative or liberal. >> but, rollland, what critics are saying, he's whole message of we're not a white america or black america or blue state america or red state a